This is a beautiful western saddle. This saddle has been conditioned often along with a fresh coat of polish. I've had this saddle for about 4 years. I had it on my older gelding. It just wasn't fitting him correctly. It's a 16inch seat. I brought it into Indiana Harness a year ago and had a brand new sheep skin put on along with all the hardware replaced, new off billets put on, a detailing, and he restitched most of the saddle as well. I have about $1,000 into it and I am asking $600 now obo and it comes with a new rope cinch and breast collar. I just need it sold and I realize that I'm not going to get my money back. If the ad is up it is still available.